At the risk of being a pest, I must ask: will OmniORB 4 provide more detail in Bad Param exceptions? It reminds me of the first days of BASIC programming :-) Thanks, E. -- . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W. Eliot Kimber | Lead Brain 1016 La Posada Dr. | Suite 240 | Austin TX 78752 T 512.656.4139 | F 512.419.1860 | eliot@isogen.com w w w . d a t a c h a n n e l . c o m