[omniORB] OmniOrb and OmniThread licensing

Bastiaan Bakker Bastiaan.Bakker@lifeline.nl
Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:52:04 +0100


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Hi,=20
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Take a look at "README.FIRST" included in the distribution:
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"The programs in omniORB3 are distributed under the GNU
General Public Licence as published by the Free Software Foundation.
See the file COPYING for copying permission of these programs. The
libraries in omniORB3 are distributed under the GNU Library General
Public Licence. See the file COPYING.LIB for copying permission of
these libraries."
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Ergo, the omniThreads and omniORB libraries are LGPLed, allowing you to =
to use them in closed source products. The LGPL requires you to make =
available upon request the source code to these libraries. If you point =
to the omniORB website in your documentation, I expect interested users =
to grab the latest source there instead of requesting it from you. =
Anyway it's a small effort.
And you'll want to dynamically link to the omniORB code indeed. If you =
desperately need to statically link, you'll have to negotiate a =
commercial license with the omniORB copyright holders. Most likely =
Duncan will be able to tell you whether AT&T is the sole copyright =
holder or there are others as well.
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Regards,
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Bastiaan Bakker
LifeLine Networks bv
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PS. I am NOT affiliated with AT&T. The above is just my understanding of =
the LGPL.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark D. Spiteri [mailto:mds@apama.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:28 PM
To: omniorb-list@uk.research.att.com
Subject: [omniORB] OmniOrb and OmniThread licensing



Hi,=20

we wish to explore building and commercially distributing software with =
OmniOrb and OmniThreads. Quoting =
http://www.uk.research.att.com/omniORB/omniORBWhy.html:

"We encourage you to use it, port it, fix bugs in it, extend and =
generally improve it. We simply require that this is done under the =
terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License < =
http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/gpl.html> and GNU Library General Public =
License < http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/lgpl.html>. "

GPL and LGPL? We believe they are incompatible, so this is odd. Can we =
interpret this as LGPL for the libraries we link against? We understand =
however that this would still require us to distribute complete sources =
and (realistically) precludes us from static linking against it.

Is our understanding correct?=20

Thanks=20
Mark=20

--=20
Dr Mark D. Spiteri=20
Engineering Manager=20
APAMA (UK) Ltd=20
200 Rustat Road, Clifton Road, Cambridge CB1 7EG, UK=20
Telephone: +44 (1223) 866310 Fax: +44 (1223) 866222=20


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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D443253815-06032002>"The=20
programs in omniORB3 are distributed under the GNU<BR>General Public =
Licence as=20
published by the Free Software Foundation.<BR>See the file COPYING for =
copying=20
permission of these programs. The<BR>libraries in omniORB3 are =
distributed under=20
the GNU Library General<BR>Public Licence. See the file COPYING.LIB for =
copying=20
permission of<BR>these libraries."</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D443253815-06032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D443253815-06032002>Ergo,=20
the omniThreads and omniORB libraries are LGPLed, allowing you to to use =
them in=20
closed source products. The LGPL requires you to make available upon =
request the=20
source code to these libraries. If you point to the omniORB website in =
your=20
documentation, I expect&nbsp;interested users to grab the latest source =
there=20
instead of requesting it from you. Anyway it's a=20
small&nbsp;effort.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D443253815-06032002>And=20
you'll want to dynamically link to the omniORB code indeed. If=20
you&nbsp;desperately need to statically link, you'll have to negotiate a =

commercial license&nbsp;with the omniORB copyright holders. Most likely =
Duncan=20
will be able to tell you&nbsp;whether AT&amp;T is the sole copyright =
holder=20
or&nbsp;there are others as well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D443253815-06032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D443253815-06032002>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D443253815-06032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D443253815-06032002>Bastiaan Bakker</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D443253815-06032002>LifeLine Networks bv</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D443253815-06032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D443253815-06032002>PS.=20
I&nbsp;am NOT affiliated with AT&amp;T. The above is just my =
understanding of=20
the LGPL.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D443253815-06032002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mark D. Spiteri=20
  [mailto:mds@apama.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:28=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> omniorb-list@uk.research.att.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[omniORB]=20
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  <P><FONT size=3D2>Hi, </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>we wish to explore building and commercially =
distributing=20
  software with OmniOrb and OmniThreads. Quoting=20
  http://www.uk.research.att.com/omniORB/omniORBWhy.html:</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>"We encourage you to use it, port it, fix bugs in =
it, extend=20
  and generally improve it. We simply require that this is done under =
the terms=20
  and conditions of the GNU General Public License &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/gpl.html">http://www.fsf.org/copyleft=
/gpl.html</A>&gt;=20
  and GNU Library General Public License &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/lgpl.html">http://www.fsf.org/copylef=
t/lgpl.html</A>&gt;.=20
  "</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>GPL and LGPL? We believe they are incompatible, so =
this is=20
  odd. Can we interpret this as LGPL for the libraries we link against? =
We=20
  understand however that this would still require us to distribute =
complete=20
  sources and (realistically) precludes us from static linking against=20
  it.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Is our understanding correct?</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Mark</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>--</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Dr Mark D. =
Spiteri</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>Engineering Manager</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>APAMA (UK) =
Ltd</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>200 Rustat Road, Clifton Road, Cambridge CB1 7EG, =
UK</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Telephone: +44 (1223) 866310 Fax: +44 (1223) =
866222</FONT>=20
  </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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